"Little Bubba"

Our Latest Addition - our Caboose 100% Finished 3/30/02

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Subject: Awesome Site!!!
From: The Blackburns

wow wow and wow what a incredible site you have.I just cant put into word how impressed I am I wish I lived closer to you I would luv to be involved in working on some thing like this. I like tinkering and welding and running equipment. I always liked to make things but always run into financial road blocks.I don't know much about railroading but there was a lady here in western pa who's husband had made a layout in the back yard. It was run with a modern style engine that was powered by a model a engine and a couple of passenger cars.he had passed away and she was wanting to sell it. not much rail it went in a square around the back yard.I would have loved to buy it but she was asking like 20 grand don't know what ever happen to it. any way stumbled across your site from the diy forum and enjoyed checking it out.

Dave Blackburn.
Subject: 15 Inch Railroad Date: Sun, 3 Oct 2004 23:44:00 -0700 From: To:

I enjoyed looking at your web site. It gave me a new interest in my RR.

I retired this Sept and have time now to start working on my 15" gauge RR. It is not in very good shape. It runs under large fir trees with a heavy growth of smaller trees over the track. Two black berry patches now own that track. The track crosses the creek twice and has an open top tunnel that still needs to be covered. Plans are to cement in the top and re-cover with dirt.

Today I cleaned about 40 feet of track between two switches freeing up an open frame car that I will use to move a pile of rail stacked under a large dead tree that is about to fall.

It was good to be able to see that track again. I have about 1000 feet of track and 4 switches in place. but the RR has not been used for about 12 years. It looks like one of the bridges will need some work. The 2"by13" bridge timbers are covered in moss. I think I will turn this bridge into a 20' covered bridge. The otherbridge is steel and in good shap. I lost a tree in the last wind storm and the roots up rooted some of the track. That needs to be fixed. Many ties are rotten and I plan on replacing them with cement ties. It is too wet in the Seattle area. My idea is to pour the ties in place. Unless I find a better method, I will weld 1' by 1/8 clips on 20" R-Bar. Then I will hammer bend them over the rail webs. Next I will pour brown colored cement into removeable forms allowing the cement to cover the R-Bar. I was making my own spikes; but that was a lot of work. This method should be easier allowing me to stretch my spike supply.

I have a gas powered 4 wheel loco. My flat car needs to be rebuilt. I may just build another one and use the old one for parts. I have a steam powered gear loco under construction and misc. other cars. A lot of work left to do on the steam loco. I have enough wheels for about 15 cars less couplers. I've never had brakes and need to figure this out before I haul passengers again.

I did run Fred Simpson's steamers until he passed away. His 12" gauge railroad is now unused and over grown. He was about finished, building a two truck diesel. I've thought about buying it and converting it to 15" gauge. It has a ride in cab; But, I bit tight to get into.

I thought today I need to take pictures as I progress and open my web site.

Just too much to do.

Jerry "Gwizz" Meyer

Subject: Brooks steamers Date: Wed, 05 Jun 2002 22:36:29 -0400 From: "brian f" To:

Stumbled on to your web site recently.
You might be interested in knowing that the building used to build Brooks steamers in Stratford was recently demolished. A concrete pad remains. Werlich Industries, manufacturer's of wooden toboggans occupied the space for a while.
Subject: NL Offer (Hemp) Date: Fri, 24 May 2002 11:47:09 -0700 From: "Terry N Taylor" To:


I think you might be interested in receiving SLO Trains which is our club newsletter that covers central California rail activity (both historical and current prototype as well as the modeling thereof). We define central CA as covering from just north of Los Angeles to somewhere around the upper end of the San Joaquin Valley with extensions thereabouts to both above Lake Tahoe and San Francisco. Since our club is in the San Luis Obispo area on the coast, we normally have more articles on local railroads and modeling activity in this area but I am always interested in articles or photos (especially from earlier times) thru out the region.

You will need Adobe Acrobat Reader to read the pdf file that I use to compress a 10 page color newsletter with photos etc into a small enough space that it will not take forever for you to download from our club web site. If you do not already have it installed, we have a link to Adobe on our web site so that you can get your free copy (or upgrade) yourself to install over the web.

Thanks for your interest and if you wish to be notified when new issues are ready to be downloaded from our web site at your convenience just let me know and I will add your name to one of our email notification lists that we maintain for persons interested in central CA rail activity. There is no cost to you as it does not cost our club anything more to have additional electronic readers and the newsletter has had a better selection of articles and photos as a result of the increased readership.

Following is the notification email that I just sent out to the over 600 persons who are currently being notified that a new issue is ready for downloading. Please note the second paragraph if you are a PC user as that is a much faster way to read the newsletter than trying to read it on the web site itself.

If you are a Mac user, go to the newsletter index and highlight May 2002. Then hold down the mouse button and a popup appears; highlight "Save this link as" and when you let go another menu should pop up. On that select "desktop" as where to save it, in "Save as" give it an appropriate name, and change the Format from "text" to "source". Not having a Mac, I do not know for sure if this method works best as a reader just emailed me with it. Would appreciate confirmation if you are a Mac user.

Another reader told me "I do use Mac BTW... and it depends on what version Acrobat you have and how it's installed in the browser. It use to be, clicking on a pdf link would open the file save window and it would download the file. Now on the new version, clicking will open the pdf right in the browser after starting Acrobat. Which really isn't the best way, because you can't read it while it's loading. The best is to Option click and then you get the file save window to save it."


Terry N. Taylor mail to:
SLOMRC Secretary & Newsletter Editor

575 Bassi Drive, San Luis Obispo, CA 93405-8039 (805-595-9535)
Modeling the Santa Fe from Riverbank to Stockton in the Transition Era

--------------------------- The May issue is finally ready for you to download from our club web site at or more directly at . This one is badly late. Must be that spring fever I referred to last month is catching as several articles were late in arriving and one article with photos is still out there someplace. ;>)

This issue is 10 pages and about 1 meg in size; so please remember that it is a whole lot faster to right click on the newsletter link when you get to the web site and then select 'Save Target as'. This will download the pdf file directly to your hard drive where you can then open it with Acrobat Reader. Much much faster then opening it on the web site and it rarely quits like opening it on the web is prone to do at times.

This month our lead article is again on the Pacific Coast Railway. Andrew Merriam has some very interesting points about Sugar Beets and Betteravia with a heck of a teaser and a photo to back him up that compares D&RGW trackage to our area. Our second cover article is by Doug Wagner where he tells us about the very tempting weekend setup for us by the South Coast Society of Model Engineers in Santa Barbara on the 25th & 26th of May while Doug Fuhriman invites us up to Oakland to look over the Northern California Free-mo group's setup on May 18th.

Wayne Scarpaci picks up on the Santa Barbara theme by including a very nice painting of a leased San Diego & Arizona Eastern 2-8-0 in Santa Barbara in 1949. Francis (Pancho) L. Post has some interesting comments on some train problems that you may have noted in the news lately and his railroading experiences on the Santa Fe. Chuck Paul has his normal columns on What's On-line & railroad oriented trivia to tease and tantalize you. There is also a flyer on page 9 inviting you to stop by during our clubs quarterly train run on July 13th to 15th at the Vets Hall in SLO and finally there are the usual upcoming events, club minutes, advertising, etc. Hopefully something again for everyone to enjoy.


Terry N. Taylor mail to:
SLOMRC Secretary & Newsletter Editor

575 Bassi Drive, San Luis Obispo, CA 93405-8039 (805-595-9535)
Modeling the Santa Fe from Riverbank to Stockton in the Transition Era

-------------------------------------- ----- Original Message ----- From: "alyoung555" To: Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2002 21:15 Subject: [PCR-nmra] 2002 Redding Convention

Dave Hemp, DDS, who opened his amazing "grand scale B.A.D. Great Northern Railway" to convention attendees as one of the layout tours, took many photos, including the Train Show held at the Redding Convention Center, and has posted the photos to his website. They can be viewed at

Enjoy, and many thanks, Dave!
Subject: Great Show Date: Wed, 1 May 2002 11:57:40 EDT From: To:

El Hempo

You done it again Bravo Bravo.

Looks like you guy's had lots of fun. The Little Bubba is not that Little anymore. Nice bunch of cars And looks like great people. And what a setting, Your place is Perfect for a car show, we don't appreciate what you done for all the car nuts like me. I know it takes lots of time AND money to put something like that together. Again Bravo

Becky looks great as usual No picture of you, Naturally you have to be behind the camera.

Was at Blackhawk last Saturday for the Norcall ccca get together And your name came out lot about the web site you Donated to The car nuts that where In San Jose 50th anniversary show. And everybody really appreciated what you done.

Going to Fresno the 18 and 19th of this month. I will also be Mare Island next Month.

That is all as far as shows are concerned This year

Will probably take 2 or 3 cars to Cristies Auction at Pebble.

Got to clean up some of this mess

A bientot: El Jackob

2002 Shasta 1 & 2 Cylinder Brass Tour
Subject: Re: caboose finished Date: Sat, 30 Mar 2002 18:12:20 EST From: To:

In a message dated 3/30/2002 4:32:51 PM Eastern Standard Time, writes:

the lettering is finally finished on the caboose ..looks pretty nice huh?

Hi Pal; boy does that bring back some old memories. when i first hired out as a brakeman, i was a rear brakeman on a fast freight job. i had to ride out on the rear steps of the caboose everytime a passing train went by. we looked each other over and you had to be outside. rain sleet or snow, it didn't matter. also had to go out at every road crossing and make sure there weren't any gouges on the ties and the road. that was another way you could tell if you had any cars not on the rail. it was suppossed to prevent wrecks. what it did was freeze my ass off. now the conductor, he slept thru it all. it's only been about twenty years since they made the crews sleep and eat on the engines and cabooses. if it wasn't for a good union, they'd never have started putting the men up in hotels. i've eaten many a meal on my caboose. they still have cabooses on the local runs where you have to back up a few miles some times to switch local industries. cooked a lot on that little gas stove. it's nostalgic, but it was not as much fun as the train nuts think. it got pretty old pretty quick. oh and you haven't had excitement until a sloppy engineer let the slack run in and out a few times. on a mile and a half long train there's about three cars of slack. i've been flung from one end of the cab to the other. some of the guys have gotten hurt pretty bad. broken bones, etc. i even saw the stove torn up from the floor where it was bolted down, because of a rough engineer. that's another reason the railroads got rid of them. had a lot of injuries.

by the time i made conductor all the cabs had been cut off except for the local switchers, and replaced by telemetry and the now infamous eot. (end of train device.)

anyhow, that sure is a realistic looking caboose. do you have a barn to keep all your rolling stock out of the weather? i always did wonder. that's getting to be a pretty nice hunk of railroad and rolling stock, to leave out in the weather.

mom and dad came up for the weekend to see and hear our annual easter pageant. and of course they wanted to see jr. sing. they've been here a whole day and we haven't "gotten into it even once." i must be mellowing in my old age.

thanks for the pics. talk to u later.

the arch
Subject: Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2002 01:00:41 -0800 From: (Dennis Peters) To:

Hi Guys...Great Site!!!!! We realy enjoyed Ray and Kathy Robinsons pictures. Can you point us in a direction on info for sizing and building a boiler? We are about to embark on the project of our lives and need all the help we can get. We finaly got our 1st issue of Grandscales....what a good sourse of info...but still having problems with specs on boilers and...get this...prints for a 4-8-8-4 Big boy...Yep ...thats our project....beleive it or 15" scale. Of course we realize it will eat up the rest of our lives and probably any future finances so we are going to put a diesel out there first for the grandkids to enjoy, too! Any help would be great!!...
We will visit this sight often....Good luck and Happy railin...,
Dennis and Pam Peters,
Linn Creek Mo.,
Subject: Re: 50th CCCA Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2002 11:04:50 -0500 From: "Beverly Rae Kimes" To: "C. David Hemp DDS INC" References: 1 , 2 , 3 , 4 , 5 , 6 , 7

Hi Doc,
Wow. Your very own steam engine! How super! Don't think I mentioned that my Dad was a locomotive engineer (for the Chicago & North Western for 44 years). So I grew up "on the railroad" -- my sister and I even had a ride in the cab of a locomotive, and since I was the older sister, I got the privilege of pulling the whistle and yelling "high ball"! Needless to say, our trip was quite illegal. But nobody ever "leaked" to higher authority.
Heigh ho,

Subject: Re: another link Date: Sat, 5 Jan 2002 13:15:24 EST From: To:

Dear Becky and Dave:

I will try to keep you informed and let you know if I fand any more problems. Nobody is perfect. :-) I have four HO scale train sets, but none of them are set out at the time. Unfourtunatly I don't have very much scenery, but I'm saving up my allowance for something special. I am going to try and be an engineer when I grow up. I am train fanatic, and everybody at school tells me so. I'm planning a large layout in my basement, but that is still many years away!!!

Paul Darcourt
Subject: New Caboose Page Date: Thu, 24 May 2001 09:23:29 -0400 From: cseitz To: "C. David Hemp DDS INC"

Dear Dave and Company: Thanks for send me an "E" mail notice of the goings on at your place.. We welll remember the pleasant time we spent at your place, some months ago.

Your caboose looks good and its great to know that progress is being made on it. I would hope that the locomotive would progress rapidly as will.

We are still active on the raillroad. Just yesterday we had a birth-day-train-ride party for some neighbors. I have quite a bit of track work to do after the winter deterijoration. Low spots, broken welds, re-alignment of switches, I got 12 tons of ballast and will probably have to order more. I have a hopper car, which makes it nice to deliver and spread the gravel

Thanks again for letting us know what is happening on the B.A.D. and Great Northern.


Choo Choo Charlie
Subject: how to build a full scale r/r track: TRACK LAYING Date: Mon, 02 Apr 2001 03:29:08 -0000 From: "william adams" To:

Sir, my name is Lon Adams and i was woundering if you could help me? I am trying to find information on enginering and track laying. Including turnouts, curves, grade, etc. Any information, or where to go to find the information would be helpful. Please respond when you can.

Thank you very much.
Lon Adams.

Subject: Re: [Fwd: how to build a full scale r/r track: TRACK LAYING] Date: Wed, 04 Apr 2001 07:09:30 -0700 From: Greg & Susan Robinson To: "C. David Hemp DDS INC" References: 1

Dear Lon,

Dave Hemp forwarded your message to me.

I am trying to find information on enginering and track laying. Including turnouts, curves, grade, etc.

This isn't an easy issue. Such information is spread out of many sources. The fellows "that know" have often picked up their knowledge by years of "doing" and years more of small specific articles in magazines here and there.

What gauge are you hoping to build to? We are planning on beginning a series of articles on track work in the near future, but it will pertain mostly to the 12" and 15" gauge arena, not the more common 7 1/2" gauge.

All the Best,

-- Greg & Susan Robinson
The Grand Scales Quarterly [Journal for 12" gauge & larger RR's]
P.O. Box 8953
Red Bluff, CA 96080 USA
530-527-0141 fax 530-527-0420 e-mail:
[Subscriptions: $20 /yr US, $25 /yr International]

Subject: Meadows and Lake Kathleen Railroad Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2001 11:44:54 -0800 From: "Ray & Kathy Robinson" To:

Hi Dave and Becky.........

I just checked out your site for the first time.........VERY Impressive.........A friend had sent me your site address and its raining outside hence the time to play on the computer.

We are constructing a private 18 inch gauge railroad on 40 acres near Deadwood, Oregon. Greg and Susan are doing an article on it soon I think. I had worked for Southern Pacific as a brakeman/conductor for 16 years and I quite in 1977 to go landscaping for a living. Our railroad doesn't have much of a rolling stock as our effort is going into the natural scaled landscape. We currently have over 2000 foot of rail laid (about half done) using PT 4 by 4's 14 inches on center. We have 2 trestles and a tunnel so far and I will include pictures. This summer I will be starting on the 200+ foot long curved wooden trestle which will be 15 foot above the creek.......That will get me back across the creek and near Lake Kathleen (I drained the lake and constructed the trestle across it 3 years ago).

Hope you enjoy the photos and write back if you can find the time.


Subject: Your excellent web site Date: Mon, 05 Feb 2001 15:29:08 -0500 From: Ralph Grossbauer To:

Hi Steamers!

Just a note about how much I enjoyed your site.

Where can I send for subscription information to the Grand Scale magazine?

The 15 " gauge is just what I've been looking for.
Ralph Grossbauer
Alma, Michigan

Subject: B.A.D. pages! Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2001 01:04:14 -0800 From: Cordell Webb To: "''"


I must say that I'm impressed. I have been surfin around here for the last 90 mins. Oh what fun! Any idea (I'm sure you have) where I can take my most excellent three year old son Ethan to ride Grand Scale Steamers? We live in Southern Cal. I have just restored a 1973 Honda XR75 and it came out great, my first effort! I wanted to go back and read the " how do I have time for all this" section but I lost track of it. Well, you are now bookmarked.

Take care,

Subject: Ray Bennet Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2001 09:19:42 -0600 From: "Bird, Ken" To: "''"

Hi Doc:

I got your site URL from Ray Bennet last night as he said you had some photos of him on the site. indeed you did and it was a pleasure seeing him in his element once again. Ray and I served together in the US Army in England almost 40 years ago and had not communicated since 1978. We spent many a days leave chasing British steam locomotive in the early 1960s and were thrown out of a lot of engine sheds in our quest for photos. That soot on Ray was a common experience in those days. You can see a few of those English photos on my web site at

He was my number one buddy in the military and is one of the most pleasant guys I have ever known. You are lucky to have him in your circle of friends.

Your site is one of the most interesting I have seen in years. We share the same interests, railroads & vintage cars. I also am a Ham Radio Operator, N9JLW, and like to design and build tube audio amps and speaker systems. In addition I restore old tube radios and phonos and do a lot of vintage car radio repairs for the Buick Club of North America, and although my only vintage car is the one I drive, a 1993 Volvo, I do attend a lot of the car shows in the mid-west.

Its been fun viewing your site, keep busy and enjoy life, we only get a small portion of it.


Ken Bird

Division Manager
Autogenics/Pioneer Electric & Research
Divisions of Stoelting Co.
620 Wheat Lane
Wood Dale, IL 60191 USA
Autogenics website:
Pioneer web site:

Subject: Track Wheels Date: Mon, 04 Dec 2000 21:08:29 -0600 From: Jim Kauffman To:

I'm trying to find a source for some 8'' to 10" railroad wheels for a rail cart that I'm building. There is a section of abandoned track near me that keeps calling my name, if you know what I mean. If you know of a wheel source, please let me know.


Jim Kauffman

If you are ever over on the North West CA Coast you must first of all be sure to stop in our favorite town in the West (FERNDALE CA) and it's on the Ocean too. Quaint, many antiques, old general stores, ... places where you can buy top hats, spats, black smith stuff, etc. And, the best place of all is Cream City Antiques & Toys pictured above (Restored Pedal Cars, Trains, antique collector trains, etc. wonderful antiques) .. Becky found an old lithograph of 2 little kids kissing that her mom had had. They are also 60 Chevy Impala fans & owners ... have models and old advertisements of a red & white one Just like Becky's Red 60 Convertible.
It is the first place on your left as you enter town. Ferndale is about 20 miles South of Eureka.

Be sure to Tell Wicked Willie and Righteous Roxie that Doc Hemp sentcha
Subject: Re: Hello! Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2000 08:30:36 -0800 From: "wicked willie" To: "C. David Hemp DDS INC" References: 1



Subject: Texas State Railroad Date: Wed, 1 Nov 2000 09:38:29 -0600 From: Bill Langford To: "''" Greetings,
Enjoyed visiting your website and thought I would send you some information about our steam powered tourist railroad. The Texas State Railroad State Historical Park is part of Texas Parks And Wildlife Department and operates over 25 miles of track. We have 4 working steam locomotives ranging from 79 to 137 tons. We also have 4 antique diesels built from 1944 to 1956. I am enclosing a jpg of our engine 500. If you would like more info on our railroad feel free to contact me.
Bill Langford
Park Manager I

Subject: Re: wanted 12" train Date: Sun, 22 Oct 2000 11:48:13 -0700 From: Greg & Susan Robinson To: "C. David Hemp DDS INC" References: 1 , 2


Thanks for forwarding that message to me. I hope we can get him "on the right track".!!

Just got back from the GSQ Tour 2000 last night. WOW! What a trip. Everyone loved it!!! Not in my wildest dreams would I have guessed it would go so well. Next year we are doing the Midwest. In 2002 we are planning to do England in the spring, and probably back to Calif. in the fall. (When we do northern CA again, we will DEFINITELY include you, Frank, and perhaps the group at Cohasset.)

Everyone's response was "over the top". They had a great time. Almost all of them were RR owners themselves and were REALLY glad to have a chance to see these RR's that they'd been hearing about for so long. With the guest speakers, the shop tours, and all the Q & A, everyone said that they not only had a great time, they learned a lot too. (Just what we planned!).

Hope all is going well for you. Hope to see you soon.

All the Best,
Subject: Thanks Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2000 21:02:39 -0700 From: Tom Deal Organization: @Home Network To:

I liked your train and I liked your flag. It's pretty. I loved that bell, too. I love all of that train. And I loved the headlight. (Keara, 4 years old.)

I love your train. May I buy it please? Thank you. (Nathan, also 4, and unaware of the value of a dollar.)

Thanks for all of your work, both in constructing this fine example of a grown-ups dream toy, and putting it within reach so my twins can sit on my lap and marvel at the whistle, the steam, etc.

Tom (51, but 4 years old again.)

I had sent Bill an email thanking him for treating me to some of the Motley Crew's (Perfect Reflections Restorations) picnic lunch while at Pebble Beach .. I was starving and taking pictures all day ... no time to go get anything to eat ... Bill is one of those folks you just know you will like right off ... here is his email back ......

-----Original Message-----
From: William J Gillio Jr []
Sent: Saturday, September 09, 2000 8:03 PM
To: dochemp
Subject: "Being Friendly"

Hi Doc,

Hey I'm just one friendly guy. All kidding aside, I had spent so much time on your different sites, I felt like I knew you and Becky for years even before we had met. As soon as I found out you were at Pebble Beach, I hurried over to introduce myself. It was just as I expected. You and Becky were very warm, friendly, and down to earth. I had heard a lot about you from Mr. Frenchy and it was all good. He does like you and Becky and speaks very highly of you both. What I like about Frenchy is that he pulls no punches. If he likes you, he'll let you know. If he doesn't like you, he'll also let you know that. I'm the same way. Life's too short to be phony. I'm the kind of guy that says hello and smiles at perfect strangers. Especially if they're female and good looking. Hey, I like beautiful people and that's the category you and Becky fall into. Years ago, I had a girlfriend from New Jersey. It would drive her crazy, that I was so friendly with people in general. She said back in New Jersey, if you didn't know the person, you sure as hell didn't talk to them.

Okay, enough of all this bullshit. Here's what I really want. If I ever get to Hemp Manor, I want a ride on "Bubba". I've had and still have since I was a little kid, a passion for trains. I was 6 when I got my first Lionel Train set. I still have the whole set and then some. It still runs and the smoke still works. I also have my Dad's train that he got when he was 6 years old. Still runs. It was built by the Ives Toy Company in New York. They later became Lionel Trains, so I've been told. I know that none of this stuff is as cool as "Bubba", but it is still kind of fun and kind of makes me cool like Doc Hemp.

So...........Mr & Mrs David Hempe..........You two just keep projecting that warmth and friendliness that you have about you (It's that AURA thing) and just look at what you might meet. Somebody that wants to play with your train.

You two take care for now and do keep up that sense of humor. Talk to you soon.

Best Regards..............Bill

Subject: Re: riding video Date: Fri, 04 Aug 2000 15:53:35 +0000 From: To: dochemp

Thank-you for the email, and the link to your site.

Have visited before and had enjoyed the videos. Think my last visit though was when you only had a couple videos up, as some seem new (or maybe did not watch all last time).

Looks like you've had some fun with either a digital camera in video record mode, else transferred some video to digital. Myself, a little of one and have a new card to play with the other.

Hard to replace being there... but more so, hard to replace watching the video on a 32in scr with stereo system connected, from the comfort of the sofa!

Here, I'm getting into narrow gauge on 7.5" gauge track. Doing 3inch scale, which works out to modeling 30in quarry/tram equipment. Gives for much bogger space to ride, but staying with the commonly used/found track system of 7.5".

We welded up the initial frame for my first loco, last couple nights. Is gonna be a diesel electric, Plymouth style switcher. Frame is 22" by 67", short and stubby but wide enough. Test run at a mini-meet I put together, tomorrow (Saturday) at a track near here with 3200 feet of mainline (I'm in San Antonio, Texas).

Subject: Re: TRAIN BUFFS and photos Date: Sun, 02 Jul 2000 22:46:10 +1200 From: David Lane To: dochemp References: 1

Hey Dave,

I have a very good friend Dave Giles of a company called Ikon Enginering based here in Auckland who coming to the USA with his train and carriages and going to a train convention at either Vancouver or Seattle in August. He speaks of a Tom Millar and a place called Train Mountain Oregon. Dave makes parts and kit sets for trains just like yours and exports around the world. I have given him your web site re trains. I just wondered if you knew of him.

Thanks for the Grave site address. We will call there on the way back to LA
By the way, I have a committment from 12 people in our group (so far) thats coming to your place. I will phone you once we are all together at the warehouse in LA with a final number.
Enclosed find a pix of some of us who are coming in front of our 40ft container just before we locked it up. You will spot Sally down in the front with the stars & stripes jacket on, and my son in law Chris to the left of her and yours truely (the managing director and master of ceremonies) directly behind her. The second pix shows several of us packing our bikes onto the pallets and just before we put the large HD cartons over then.

Getting closer......

See you soon ,


Below are a couple pics from our good friends from New Zealand , David & Sally Lane. It is of them and their group shipping their bikes over for their trip to Sturgis S.D. this year .... they will (hopefully all) spend a day or 2 at our place and ride trains & Harleys & party hardy on their way to the promised land! ... (Grin)

Subject: Great Web Site!!!! Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2000 09:25:41 -0700 From: Richard Norman Organization: Home To:

Hi Folks,

I came across your we site while looking for information on Windsor CA --- Near Santa Rosa. Is the ghost town you show in the pictures contained in the link "Doc & Friends ride in full size locomotive" the same town?

I have a special interest in the town of Windsor as we are installing new R/R crossing signals there.

Thanks for the enjoyable trip through your web site the music is great too.

Rich Norman
Project Manager
Quality Signal Construction, Inc.
Woodland, CA

Subject: Re sending pictures files from David Date: Thu, 08 Jun 2000 02:57:52 -0500 From: David Villarreal Organization: digital To:

Hey Doc

Ran across your page looking for LGB trains. I like your web page and my 19 month old son loves your moves. Thanks for making my son go choo choo...hehehe I hope one day for a ride on your train. Until then, please keep the movie files coming.

I was looking for a LGB train that looks like my pictures files I am sending you. I would like to know if I could ever find one. I don't know allot about trains I just started looking into this hobby because my son loves trains. I bet your grandson loves trains. A kewl train to play with helps.

We just bought a train set for our son's bedroom wall layout. I would like to find one like our pictures.

I need help on this one to. LGB catalog # 4020 1968 - 74 four wheel, European O-type high side gondola; unpainted straw brown. also sold with #20401 sets. I am looking for the number 420 but in this LGB guide that is the closes thing I can find.

Thanks again

Subject: Progress on steam Loco Date: Thu, 11 May 2000 10:15:30 -0400 From: cseitz To: ""

Dear Doc and Becky-Just a little progress report on the work on the Locomotive.

I have installed all the SS strips in the fire tubes, re-assembled the front end, hooked up all the piping. I fired up up yesterday and it is working fine. It steams better and gets up a head of steam more quickly. Thanks to you and y our idea of the SS st rips.

I have to put the smoke box on and hook up the oiler, and then should be ready to really go.

I did notice that the timing is a little bit off, I can tell by the loping effect.

I also want to find a regulator and pipe in a pilot light for the main burner. Thanks to you for that idea also.

Again, it ws a pleasure meeting y ou two nice people and we thank you for your hospitality.


Choo Choo Charlie


Choo Choo Charlie,
Thanks for the email and kind words, was a pleasure meeting you again and your lovely wife after all these years ... when I was a Scout (Pathfinder) leader under your national direction when I was only 17 years old ... here we were both into trains and didn't know it. The pilot plumbing was the builders design .. Mel Harris ... at my request for saftey reasons though.

As for your timing ... open your lower cylinder cocks and stand back .... have someone run the engine and be sure the exhaust is exactly the same on both sides! That's the way I time mine ...
Cheers and shinny rails, Doc Hemp ...
we are having another fund raiser this evening .... 150 - 200 people at $75 a piece for a snack and a train ride ... will be cold though ... 55 - 60 degrees. Glad I put in that steam tank heater! Am finished with 90% of the fund raisers after this year ... too much work. The charity work has been a nice part of the train ... but ... not at the expense of our health .... too exhausting.
Subject: web site Date: 23 Apr 2000 03:15:21 -0700 From: To:

a very interesting,informative and enjoyable visit on your pages. many thanks. just got on the internet. here, retired ex rcaf wireless opr ww2 , and cdn national railroad radio and data tech.
a Happy Easter to you and yours. hope you enjoy the attachment.
tnx agn and best 73s to you and yours=
larry ve7sd

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Subject: Re: FRRS Web Site Portola Museum Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2000 20:24:52 -0700 From: Samuel Herschbein To: dochemp


Thanks for the compliments. You'll really enjoy the rental, make sure you get pictures of you hanging out the window! I'm guessing from your website that you've operated locos, if so, I'd recommend the F7 just for the nostalgia.

Lotsa cool stuff on your web site!

Subject: Your website Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2000 21:59:39 +1000 From: Ian Hodgkiss To:

Well, I've never laughed so much at a website in a long time! Good to see someone with eclectic tastes like mine! I thought I was the only one with interests in bikes (but preferably Ducati or BMW I must admit), trains (I've played with model railways since I was a kid) and I haven't got to your planes or humour or dentist bits yet. You're right about the spelling as well - it's a shocker! I agree with your sentiments about biking being about freedom and our range of freedoms are being restricted and diminished almost daily even in this country. Keep up the good work and I'll be recommending your site to others!
(Queensland, Australia)

cseitz wrote:

Dear David and Becky--Thanks for your message of this morning. I didn't know about a rail source in Stockton.. How much does new rail cost these days.

New Rail is around .54 cents per pound (negotiated) .... and we get it at L.B. Fosters F.O.B. Stockton = plus shipping or we just go and pick it up ... but it only comes in 30' sections.

I remember that a keg of spikes our size cost $200. for 2000 approx;.

.... we use no spikes = pre weld all our steel ties into place in straight and what ever pre measured radius curves we want. .. each section is then bolted into place. Works perfect the first time, every time with NO MAINTAINENCE!

David, what did you use to slow down the heat going through that main fire tube in the boiler. That curly metal stirp.

Actually ... that is the only thing I didn't get across to Greg the publisher correctly, what we did and what you want to do is place the twisted Stainless Steel strips into all the 1" boiler tubes except the bottom row, as the fire wants to hit the back reflector plate material and rise up through the upper rows of the 1" tubes. And by leaving the lower row open and with less resistence, we hoped to coax the fire down through those better too. We left the main large fire tube open to get as much heat and oxygen into the rear firebox as possible. We used 15/16th wide cut S.S. strips exactly the length of the tubes. You put as many twists as you can where you get NO KINKS! ...About 3 twists per 6 feet ... when twisted they will be a little shorter than your tubes and not stick out at either end. They must also be twisted inside of an exact size pipe you will be putting them in ... we used a 1" pvc plastic pipe cut 6" shorter than our fire tubes. Hold one end of a strip in a vise and twisted the other with a pait of heavy locking pliers. You then put a slight bow into each one to make them fit tightly inside each tube and not rattle.

I got the idea from reading an article in the magazine Living Steam. .... on a 7 1/2" guage boiler. A patient friend of ours, Jim Goff owned the sheetmetal shop and he donated the strips cut off some left over S.S. sheets. I had my friend Ray Bennett help me do the whole thing ourselves. We just pulled the back fire plate out and placed them from the rear. Again, you want to leave them out of the bottom row of tubes to coax the fire down through those tubes too. .. if the heat still goes out the stack too fast ... place them in the lower tubes and one large one in the main fire tube too.

What kind of metal, how did you fasten it in the tube? How many did it take.???? I need something like that. My heat goes out the stack too fast. Another thing I want to learn from you is what you use to control the burner, and how do y ou regulate the fire. In other words what is your firing valve like?

Mel the builder did a great job ... we have a totally seperate pilot valve .... (which we run wide open at times just sitting to keep steam without the main burner on at all just to maintain steam) We have an identical simple valve that regulates the big burner from 0 to the pressure in the propane tank. You can check that out when you come by.

If you don't have time on the 25 th or th 26th. Maybe we better come another time. I wold be delight ed to s ee things in operation, but I get out to Calif. every year or so. Let me know if y9ou don't have the time.

leave me a number to reach you when you are in chico ... in case it is down, etc.

Chew Chew Dave

It was great talking with y our Dad. I"M looking foroward to seeing y our Mom, and You folks.

Maranatha--Choo Choo Charlie
Subject: Believe it or not, I'm still unearthing rolls of film and having them developed, but no luck yet. However . . . . Date: Tue, 4 Apr 2000 00:26:11 -0700 From: "Bob Edkin" To:

I have scanned and uploaded a panoramic view of the SGRRS visit to your rail operations from February. It certainly was cooperative of the weather to give us a break for a couple of days. Sorry I couldn't make it over -- had other obligations. In any event, hope you like the pikachure. Rather than just attach it to this missive, I have uploaded it to the SGRRS ecircle (kind of a mini web site.) I'll be sending you an email invitation to join the circle, and once there you'll find it in the Files list. It'll also be in the photo album, but probably too small to download and make much use of.

On another point. I have a grandson who turns 2 on April 15th who is just nuts for trains. Whenever he comes to visit (which is quite often) he heads straight for the videotape rack, picks out an armful of "choochooveedooze" and then insists that "Boppa" sit with him on the couch to watch with him. I know he would be thrilled beyond description to see your choochoo and take a ride. The plan right now is to take him to Sacto to the rail museum, although I don't know how that will pan out. In any event, if sometime you're going to be in operation and wouldn't mind one rather old and one very young interloper, we'd be more than happy to invite ourselves. In any event, surf on over to the SGRRS ecircle, via your email invitation, and check it out
Subject: Re: Greetings from Pennsylvania!!`` Date: Sun, 2 Apr 2000 07:05:39 -0400 From: cseitz To: dochemp

Dear David and Becky; It was so good to hear from you and so very prompt also I can't believe that you were in Redding since 1970 with a r ailroad, and I was in Chico, from 1968 to 1991., and I never knew that.

Yes, t he Maple Creek and Eastern RR was one of the roads which I built. Don Sorenson, the owner was a very good friend. He had the money and I had a little know-how. I supervised that entire building of that railroad. My trains were up there for several years. We have had as many as five locomotives. Three gas powered ones and two steamers. One time we had 1000 pathfinders camping there for the week-end. Two steam=powered trains ran till midnight hauling kids back and forth. We had school kids , handicap kids, church groups and even a State Highway Patrolman's party with wives and families. Groups used to come by the bus loads.

I left Chico in 1991 and Sorenson died about 1992. I can well imagine that the maintenance program has been neglected.

When I come out there around the 26th of April, I hope to drop by up there and look it over. Just for old times sake.

I don't know whether you got my attachment last time or not. But my Loco is propane fired, and is a 0-6-0 road switcher. I have two passsenger cars, two flats, one hopper care (for spreading gravel, one caboose, one box and one cattle car, both in disrepair, one street car and them the big gas powered locomotive. Only abot 1/4 mile of track Not much room back here in the east.

I live only about 60 miles from Easton, Pa. were we first met your parents, back in 1948. I have kept in touch most of the time, but not in the last 15 years.

Surel;y hope we can get together with you.

Would appreciate your mother's phone number. as we will be in Loma Linda from the 17th to the23rd.

I wish you could come back here and visit the "Merrybrook and Western Ry"

Subject: Just A hello Date: Sat, 1 Apr 2000 23:43:12 EST From: To:

I was looking around on the ole net for trains (particularly the Skunk Train) and I came across your site. It is wonderful. I love the music and the videos and well all of it. And I can tell you are just a little partial to american motorcycles. And they are great to be proud owners of too.

I have riden the Skunk to willts from Ft Brag and eaten at the warf. The restraunt was good the train ride was un-beliveable. I am currently in the process of modeling it in my basement. Yes I have a basement. Its truely a weird and good thing. I have to admit that as a disposessed California Native it seems strange to look down from the ground floor and see.... Well Floor. but it does double the size of the house and gives me a place where my wife and I both agree I can make a mess.

Wel thanks for the great site and have a great day.

Ray Hawkins
Formerly of San Diego
Subject: Greetings from Pennsylvania!!`` Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2000 17:49:32 -0500 From: cseitz To: David Hempe

Dear Davids: Peppy and Don Clark just arrived here at her folks place just a little bit ago;. She was all excited to show me your pictures of your railroad. I got excited also., and still am.

I did not know you were into trains. I have been a rail fan for years and years.

I lived in Chico, just 70 miles south of Redding, for about 23 years. While there I help build three railroads. All 18" gage. One was just outside of Chico, the other was at Cohasset, and the third was up at Leoni Meadows, YouthCamp.

How long have you been in R edding. And how long have y ou been railroading? Where were you while I was in Chico all those years? Have y ou seen the railroad at the Leoni Meadows Youth Camp? I laid ot and constructed the first railroad there with 1 and 1/2 miles of track. Thiey since has widened the gage to 24" and extended the track another mile and a half.

If all goes well, I plan to be in Chico on April 24,25,26> Is there any chance wew could get together?

I have a full scale speeder, and Have ridden the rails of the little rail road that runs be tween Mt Shasta and Look, where it joins the SFBN. We have also ridden on old SP lines and UP Lines and also the Nevada Northern on the Speeder!

I wish we could get together while we are in Chico.

Where is your Father now?

And how is your mother these days?

Would love to hear from you.


P.S. Peppy Clark is my neice. Am enclosing an attachments!!

Subject: website Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2000 21:44:07 -0000 From: "rdje" To:

Hey, Doc you have a really cool web site Eric and I have been having a good time checking it out. This is a big site we can't see it all as fast as we want to, but your train movies are really cool.
Hope your haircut is holding up well

see you soon
Subject: trains Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2000 11:06:04 -0800 (PST) From: (Grant Lopus) To:

I loved the train movies and all the classic car photos. Looks like a whole lotta fun! Thanks for turning me on to your website. See ya!

Grant A.K.A. The kid at NAPA.

Take Care,

Subject: Re: NEW TRAIN PAGE! Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2000 20:45:35 EST From: To: CC:

Hi Doc, your new train site.....good photos and great sounds....was talking to Jacques the other day....we figured we might just have to blast on up there for a toot-toot before you think he can handle a stripped-down hopped-up straight pipe Harley : ) I think I can; I have been riding them there Hogs since 1953...first came to California out of the midwest on a '47 time flies!

Best Regards...Ed
Subject: good work Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2000 19:59:44 -0500 From: "Roy Mathews" To:

Your web site is by far the most interesting and entertaining that I have ever seen...Please continue the good work and keep the fun coming.... I am able to live some of my fantasies by scrolling through your many pages of fantastic adventures..

Roy Mathews
Subject: Re: NEW TRAIN PAGE! Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2000 19:37:38 +1300 From: David Lane To: dochemp

hello Dave & Becky,

Thank you for the details re your new Train Page. It' looks just great. Well done. Sally and I have held a deep facination of steam trains all our lives. We have ridden many miles on the foot plate of some of our earliest KA and JA steam locos that we have up and running in NZ. I have shovelled many a drop of coal into the furnance. Times starting to run with just 6 months to go..........

Talk to you soon,

David & Sally
Subject: [Fwd: [Fwd: Cool Fact: Largest Steam Locomotives]] Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2000 17:43:34 -0800 From: bob casebeer To: "C. David Hemp D.D.S"

Subject: [Fwd: Cool Fact: Largest Steam Locomotives] Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2000 22:00:28 -0600 From: Susan To: Topp

thought you might like to read this :)

The Learning Kingdom wrote:

> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> The Learning Kingdom's Cool Fact of the Day for January 28, 2000
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------

> What were the largest steam locomotives ever built? >

> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >

> The largest, heaviest, most powerful steam locomotives ever built > were the giant 2-6-6-6 Allegheny engines, used by the Chesapeake & > Ohio Railroad during the 1940s. These 600-ton behemoths could reach > a maximum speed of 60 miles per hour (97 km/hr). >

> To supply the Allegheny steam engines with fuel and water, a new > tender car had to be developed that could hold 25,000 gallons of > water (95,000 liters) and 25 tons of coal. >

> The monster locomotives were used to pull trains of coal and timber > across the Allegheny mountains, out of the New River Valley of West > Virginia. When diesel engines replaced them in the 1950s, the local > steam train industry collapsed, ruining the economies of several > railroad-based towns. >

> More about the biggest steam engines:
> An Allegheny engine is on display at the Henry Ford Museum:
> >

> A Cool Fact about the world's smallest steam engine:

Subject: Ref .your train Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2000 10:23:50 EST From: To:

What a nice web site!
Thank you I enjoy trains of all sizes. Large or small
David Erdkamp
I'm 62 year old and can remember the last days of steam on the main lines.
Subject: Seek information you may have Date: Sun, 5 Mar 2000 13:33:19 -0800 From: "John F. Mahler" Organization: Microsoft Corporation To:

Dear Becky & Dave,
I am a 53 year old steam nut. I have loved railroads all my life. Long story short version: I was raised around the SP in Sacramento from the time I was 4 years old till I was about 9. I knew all the guys in the car and engine shops. My dad was an electrician there then. I also knew some of the guys in the foundry and have many experiences to relate of that time. My "job" was polishing the bell on all the engines that came out of rework. They gave me a can of vasoline and a couple of red rags to do it. I loved that job. They must have got a kick out of me at that age as you do your grandson, Bryan.
Well, enough chat, I am wondering if you might have information about the Klamath Falls narrow guage steam park. I have heard there is one there. It is a public admission concern and has certain months of operation. Like the live steam rides you mention in your wonderful pages, one must know when they are in operation to avoid disappointment. Otherwise, you site is primo. I am envious. I have just got my computer in 1995 but have had little time to do much more than learn the rudimentary basics. I would like to have a page devoted to steam cars. I have been trying to learn html code from "Teach Yourself HTML in 24 hours" with the text book and online lessons. Not much success yet. The music on your pages makes me come back again and again. I really have to compliment you on your excellent site.
Thank you,
John Mahler
Subject: Re: Our 15" Gauge private Grand Scale Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2000 11:16:16 PST From: "Howard Short" To:

Thank you, Doc:

I went to your website. I like it! I guess I would as it seems like you and I are in the same boat or LOCOMOTIVE when it comes to the way we think that html and webpages should be done. A bit old fashioned in the web world, maybe, but with the computers that I started with you would be all day loading frames and forget java script. They'll all come back to our way of thinking, someday??

I've got your photo. Thank you and I'll place it in USRailroad's guest photos along with a link early next week.

Enjoy trains and webwork!

Best wishes,

Howard Short for

Subject: RE: Permission to use photograph of "Little Bubba" in "Surviving World Steam Locomotives" Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2000 08:39:31 -0600 From: "HEFNER, JAMES D" To: "'dochemp'"


Thank you very much, that is a better picture than the other one. The proportions also (once I resampled it) also match most of the other pictures in the database.

Attached you will find your picture as it will appear in the database. I will also include the URL for your website in the notes field for "Little Bubba".

By the way, a review of "Surviving World Steam Locomotives" will appear in an upcoming issue of "Grand Scale Quarterly". I have not seen it, but I am hoping it is very favorable. :)

Thanks for responding, and congratulations on owning such a unique steam locomotive. I know you must be proud.

-James Hefner
Our steam locomotive "Little Bubba" is also appearing in the Jan/Feb Grand Scales Magazine.
Subject: Re: video large scale steam Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2000 16:28:54 -0800 From: Richard Finlayson To: dochemp

Dave, that is AWESOME! Too much fun. I enjoyed the two movies you sent, but can't download any from the web site. Is it just me? It gives the the "broken movie" icon as it attempts to download. I have to admit I'm beyond jealous! What a railroad. Where are you and Becky located? That's quite a setup you have.

Have you already inlcluded a link from the links page?

Thanks for sharing the vids,

Subject: Re: miniture railroad Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2000 07:14:02 -0800 From: dochemp Organization: C. David Hemp DDS Inc. To: Bob

Bob Barrick wrote:

I'm a member of the SDC and have always enjoyed your website.....I noticed you have a railroad line on your property. Do you belong to a group or club that deals with railroads ? The reason I'm asking is that my place of employment has some of this small railroad line and is thinking of removing it . My question to you is there a market out there for this kind of rail line and if there is where is the best place to get ahold of these people or to advertise . there is probably a couple of miles of track and I'd hate to just scrap it if there are people looking for it
.......later Bob Barrick

Is it 12 lb rail? should be stamped in it some where ... prolly on the end near where the bolts are. What is the gauge? = how far apart are the rails? Wooden ties? Steel ties? The scrap prices are almost non existant anymore, best to sell it to a hobbiest .. the chore is taking it apart, stacking and shipping .. you would have to find someone close to your area which is? can buy it brand new for .54 cents per pound all in 30 ft sections. Call for scrap prices and sell it for a little more than that to a hobbiest in your area would be the ticket.
Subject: Ref .your train Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2000 10:23:50 EST From: To:

What a nice web site!
Thank you I enjoy trains of all sizes. Large or small
David Erdkamp

I'm 62 year old and can remember the last days of steam on the main lines.
Subject: nice job Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2000 00:52:45 -0600 From: "KD Mick" To:

Just came across your site.....very nice job ! What a neat train you have....It is a smooth runner, judging from your movies, looks like lots of fun !!
I've loved little trains all my life, after riding one in our local park when I was young, I 've been hooked ever since. I am in process of building a 1/4 scale....20 inch gauge railway on my property.....mine is not near as far along as yours...but in time all things come...thanks for the inspiration. It nice to know I'm not the only "nut case" in the world !

Happy Rails To You !! until we meet again.

Thanks Kelly
Subject: getting started Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2000 16:56:17 EST From: To:

Hello ,

I am interested in building a train around our two acre pond. We live in Glastonbury, Ct. I was wondering if you could stear me in the right direction. Parts, tracks etc.. I figured we should lay out the line first and I think twelve inch is the size we need. I would be grateful for any web addresses you could provide. Or mailing addresses or phone numbers..
Thanks for the time Keith Susan Hunter DeCarolis

Folks, if you are interested in a Grand Scale Railroad like we have the only way to get started is to Subscribe to the Grand Scales Quarterly by Greg and Susan Robinson ... from the bottom of our train page, they have all the contacts you might need.
Subject: Re: Great Site! Date: Mon, 03 Jan 2000 21:44:58 -0800 From: James Hoback To: dochemp References: 1


Thanks for the kind words and thanks for the attachments. Unfortunately my newer computer is kaputt and in the shop. I'm using my old 386 for e-mail right now and this old machine takes FOREVER to download any graphics etc. I'll move your e-mail to the newer machine later this week when I get it back. It will process your attachments at a more reasonable rate.

I had seen your web site some time back but you have added a lot to it since I have seen it. You folks are obviously having a helluva good time playing trains. Are you located near Redding? I was through there on the way to Medford, OR last August and thought of your railroad at the time. I didn't have any address with me. At that time the smoke was thicker than L.A. smog. I stopped briefly in Orland to see Frank Allen's RR but it was closed and it was 102 degrees. I looked at it from the air conditioned car.

Assuming you are near there (Redding / Redbluff) I will stop in and call for a visit the next time I venture north.

Thanks again,

Jim Hoback
Subject: Re: CCCA Judging Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2000 12:00:10 EST From: To:

Dave: Your web site is incredible! Keep up the great Classic car and steam train photos, etc. Redeem steam and bring back the Packard!!

Neil Torrence
Subject: Re: Steam Train Video Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2000 13:49:40 EST From: EdGilberts To:

Hi Dave,

Wow...great videos of Little Bubba. You certainly stay with the state of the art when it comes to your website. Also like the name of your railway, Great Northern. I grew up in North Dakota and it reminds me of the Great Northern steam locomotives that were so close that they shook the house when they came rumbling by.

Thank you for sharing Little Bubba with us. We will defiinitely have to plan a ride up your way one of these days. Hope your holidays were happy ones and the best to you in the new year.
Subject: Little Bubba. Date: Tue, 16 Nov 1999 15:13:36 +1300 From: "Kerry Bennett" To:

Hi There,
I was sent the URL of your site by a friend of mine. He knows that I am interested in this kind of thing as I am the Editor for two local club newsletters in ROTORUA NEW ZEALAND.

We are in a city in the middle of the northern island of the two and I was writing to ask if I could use some JPGS from the 'Little Bubba' site in same.

The Rotorua Society of Model Engineers have a triple gauge track at a local museum. Most modellers in NZ build to 7 1/4" gauge anything bigger than that and you can't take it home! The track has 3 1/2", 5" and 7 1/4" with all the usual, depot, tunnel, bridges etc. But there are some 15" lines in NZ, but only one uses steam it's the Whangaparaoa Steam Railway a 1/2 hour north of Auckland our biggest city. It runs a 2-4-4 tanker 'LITTLE TOOT' built by the owner Ted Pointon a few years ago. You can e-mail him on

Up on the Coromandel peninsular is the Driving Creek Railway built by local potter Barry Brickell. This guy needed a means of transportation for the clay and firewood for his pottery. And being a avid railfan he designed and built a 15' line starting in 1978, it climbs it's way up to the summit of his 60 acres over several long and high trestles , through three tunnels and over the most amazing part of the line a double decker viaduct.
Engineer Brickell needed to gain about 10' in height but was running out of room and the rails were heading for a stream valley very deep, so the line was sent across on the lower level and round a tight horseshoe curve and back over its self on the top!
Four IC trains operate over this system their web site is The line will open to its final terminus in 2000, well that's if he doesn't decide to build more that is.

I see you have a friend Ray Bennet same name as mine almost small world?
Barry has a website it's
OK must go now,
Yours Kerry Bennett

Subject: Love your site Date: Thu, 7 Oct 1999 19:00:34 -0700 From: "Roscoe Rose"

Love your site. A friend of mine from WA told me to look up your site. I think he knows you.....Richard D.

I'm in Burney and have seen the steam RR on private property here. It's great! Hope you continue to send great pictures and stories. I'd love to see it sometime.

C. Rose
Subject: Love your site Date: Thu, 7 Oct 1999 19:00:34 -0700 From: "Roscoe Rose" To: Love your site. A friend of mine from WA told me to look up your site. I think he knows you.....Richard D. I'm in Burney and have seen the steam RR on private property here. It's great! Hope you continue to send great pictures and stories. I'd love to see it sometime. Thanks C. Rose
Subject: I'm free Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1999 13:56:44 -0700 From: Greg & Susan Robinson To:

Hello Sir,

I'm not a ward (er, I mean employee) of the County anymore. I am ecstatic to say that I'm also no long a computer technician. One or our GSQ subscribers from the mid-west is also the publisher of a garden railway magazine called AW NUTS (Always Whimsical, Not Usually to Scale). He liked what we were doing with GSQ, so now I'm a full time editor.

What does that mean? Well, for starters that means I have more time to get around and do important things ---TRAINS! I was up a Mel Nethery's just last night, I thought about getting in touch with you, but I knew it would have been late before we were done. Anyway. . . GSQ #8 is getting the final final touches put on it now (late as usual, but that should be fixed real soon). I want to make sure we do a feature of your line in Issue #9. Sound like a plan?

All the Best,
Subject: Re: Discovery Date: 8/22/99 ... an old email we missed buried in the past ... Sat, 5 Jun 1999 14:35:12 -0700 From: "shaver" To: "dochemp"

Hi from Paul and Sandy Shaver .....

Sorry we missed you in Redding. Yes we did enjoy the dam and beautiful spite of the rain! We took our dusters just in case and they came in very handy. We left Redding Sunday am and decided to come home via the beautiful Feather River Canyon. From there we took another detour and ended up in South Lake Tahoe (..poured rain from Truckee to South Shore). The other couple we were with own a cabin there so we decided to stay the night. A little casino time, a good nights sleep and we were on our way home the next morning. Nice weekend.

I have found some of the similarities between us amusing. When we read your web pages we laughed out loud at the comments regarding getting a HD during the 'middle aged years'... Paul has wanted a Harley since he was a kid. He had access to a bike in Viet Nam and wanted one of his own. However, then came 'me'...years of college....3 beautiful daughters...and way too many horses, many years of rodeo and working to support My goal was to buy Paul his first HD when I graduated from college as a way to thank him for all of his help getting me through...of course that never happened. In l996 we took a road trip to see family from Seattle (his family) to Oklahoma (my family). We ended up in So Dakota during bike week. I was blown away at how much fun everyone looked like they were having. I don't think I knew bikes were for couples too! A few months later Paul brought in a picture of THE BIKE of his dreams. The l997 Heritage Springer, white with red trim...just like yours. I decided it was time!! I went to the local HD shop and told them I wanted to buy a bike for my husband's birthday (2 mos). They all laughed....(gosh who new there was a 8-12 month waiting period...and of course 'his' bike was already sold out). After they realized I wasn't kidding they set out to help me make my surprise a success...I think they enjoyed it as much as I did. As luck would have it (meant to be???) I rec'd a call a couple weeks before his B-day and someone had cancelled their was "his" bike!! Needless to say the big day at the HD shop was a tear jerker for all. The bike was delivered on May 31, l997 (approx. 20,000 miles ago!) Our very first run was the Redwood run. Last year we "rode" to Sturgis, this year to Seattle and Victoria, next year back to Sturgis. Thirty years of marriage and every trip is like a honeymoon!!

Another similarity, Paul enjoyed the web pages of the train collectors and loves the old steam locomotives...he is a Trainmaster for Santa Fe RR (27 yrs). I was the finance director at a local hospital for 18 years, last year I retired (the week before Sturgis) and am now a Healthcare Reimbursement and Compliance Consultant.

Well I guess this is long enough. Hopefully we'll see you down the road (Redwood Run?). If your ever in our neck of the woods please stop by. We're just minutes from the gold country and some beautiful riding areas. We live on 12 acres, lots of room to park bikes, pitch tents or crash in our guest room. Also, if you ever get by Lodi...just a few miles from here..our friends that we ride with own a very nice night club there called Legends....stop by and have a drink.

See ya!

Dear Sandy & Paul .... sorry I missed this great email last June ..... found it in the archives after you just mentioned you sent it ... you will have to check out our new train site ... our trip for a day on a lumber train. Our Day in a Diesel Engine
Doc & Becky Hemp
Subject: Re: Web Sites Date: Sat, 21 Aug 1999 09:42:55 -0700 From: "shaver" To: "dochemp"

Good Morning! Wow you were up early (or stayed up late?). Paul was just leaving for work at 4am. I'm not sure if you read my July email (I guess your system was down). Paul is a Trainmaster for Burlington Northern Santa Fe (27 years). He's off Sun;Mon;Tues each week. What day do you think you'll be through this way? We live approx. 45 minutes from Sacramento toward the foothills (Ione/Jackson area). Herald is a little spot in the road...mostly grapes and horse country..we have the latter. If you are traveling down I-5 you'll go right by 'old' Sacramento which is a great stopping point for lunch or dinner. We would love to meet you there...or..if you need a place to crash you are welcome to stay here. We live about 10 miles off hiway 99. (Could cross over from I-5 to Hiway 99 - approx 5 to10 miles?
Let us know.
Subject: Web Sites Date: Mon, 16 Aug 1999 23:39:55 -0700 From: "shaver" To: "Dave & Becky Hemp"

Dave and Becky...........

So the class clown became a dentist with a garage bigger than my house (I have no garage), a "yard" larger than our ranch and, among all things owned, has his own railroad (Disney would be JELL-US!)!! I love it!!!

Sandy, my fox/pitbull and I just finished perusing the last (I think) of your sites and have had a blast. For the record, I'm half Kraut, quarter Irish/quarter Scotch with the "..bull" being Cajun/Cherokee/Muskogee with a sense of humor (a must to live with me...). Anyway, I was intrigued with your building of the loco and the use of gas in lieu of the more traditional fuels. As we live just down the road and have 3 days a week off I'd love to see your gem, maybe even jam with some of the constructors.

We looked for ya's at the state rally, got yer message (excuse) for not hanging around and will attempt to make contact when Scotty fixes the beam....

Keep the rubber side down,

Paul and Sandy Shaver
Herald, Calif
Subject: Hello again Old Man! Date: Sat, 21 Aug 1999 01:21:48 EDT From: To:

Hi Dave:

I just walked in the door from another two day trip from Roanoke, Va. to Bluefield, W.Va., and then back home. Today was a LONG twelve hour day on a couple of Norfolk Southern "Iron Horses." Going West yesterday we had 164 empty coal hoppers. Very light train, and traffic was light. (only 6hrs and 15 minutes on duty,) (got 8 hrs pay.) "gravy train" day. (We get those sometimes.) Today coming back East, and home, we earned our money. We had 183 loaded coal hoppers. total tonnage was 25,643 tons. Length 10,051 feet. Two brand new, big 4,000 horse power GE Dash-9 Locomotives. Now that's a train. Who would have thought when we were in school together forty years ago, that we'd be doing what we are doing now. Me, on this big rail road, and you owning your very own little rail road. I must admit i do love it out there on the trains, even if the hours are really tough. If i was rich, i guess i'd run the trains for them for free. There's nothing like the feeling of running down those long mountains with 25,000 tons of train behind you, and knowing that you have it all under control. Those truckers with their little 20-40 tons think they are driving something exciting? Why we can fit their whole truck & trailer rigs on one flat-bed rail car. We can fit two of their trailers on one flat, and haul several hundred at a time in one train. In fact i think a lot of of that high way traffic ought to be on the railroad. Then it would be a little easier on the roads, and a bit less crowded and much safer for us on the interstate in our cars and of course on our motorcycles. (Guess i'll fess up, just bought a Honda Magna. The two year wait for a new Harley-Davidson was just too much!) (Sorry about that my Harley ridin' Pal.) I'm enclosing some pictures that one of my conductors took of me on one of our coal trains. I can't even remember who took them. Use them if you like. They're pretty representative of what our big coal trains look like. Gotta finish reading my mail and hit the sack. I'll probably be back on another train before daylight. Keep in touch.
Over and out.

"the Arch"
Subject: web site Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1999 11:04:01 -0700 From: Jay Hayes To:

Great web site! I haven't gotten to all the railroad pages yet, but I have enjoyed the ones I have visited. Also the Harleys even though they aren't one of my main interests. Keep up the good work. I am attaching a photo of my locomotive, my version of Don Young's Marie Estelle in 7 1/2 gauge at th Golden Gate Live Steamers track in Berkeley. It's not Grand Scale but it sure was fun to build and is a blast to run. Thanks again for the great web site.
Subject: Your Railroad! Date: Sat, 19 Jun 1999 01:36:46 PDT From: john stevens To:

Ok this is going to be long (better get comfortable)so let me start by telling you who i am.

My name is Tyler Phillips, and i live in Fort Bragg California (yes home of the California Western RailRoad)...I am 19 and a Huge Railfan.

Ok now that we got that out of the way, You web page and your railroad is Awsome! This is something i dream about! The steam engine looks really good and so does the other things around you house, especialy that water tower!! oh my that really looks good!

I was wondering if you could answer a few of my questions, if it would be ok, I was wondering how much you paid per 12pound rail, switch frog, and for spikes (i think you used spikes didnt you?). Also I was wondering if there was anyway you could show me some plans for the Steam Genorator that your friend is building, and where did you get the injector?

I am asking all this because my cusin and I are planing to build a 24" guage railroad on his property, and i cant seam to find any information of the type of subjects that i have asked you about.

any info you have or can give would be greatly appreciated!

Tyler Phillips

P.S. I will be cheacking back to your web page often to see how the fun goes!
Subject: Report of First Visit Date: Fri, 02 Apr 1999 20:50:36 -0500 From: Mike and Pat Organization: DynMeridian To:

I have just spend an enjoyable hour admiring your live steam railway and the G-scale layouts. I have 30 acres in rural Virginia, and I'm just beginning to look at setting up a back yard rail. Now that I'm a grandfather, I can now claim that it is for my two grandchildren!

I just wanted to thank you for the beautiful work on the web sites and on the systems they depict. They are now bookmarked and I'll be visiting again. -

Mike Heaney - Somerville, VA (population 52)
Subject: Trains Date: Sat, 03 Apr 1999 16:03:04 -0500 From: "John B." To:

Dave, Becky,
Love your steam train site! Spent quite a while going over it. Don't even recall what I was searching for when I found it by accident. After looking it over I thought I'd pick your brains for some info... You see, I'm a scout leader out here on the east coast (in CT, just a few hours from Steam Town national park) and for the longest time I have been trying to convince folks that our local camp needs a railroad. No, not a real steam engine, more of what you see at an amusement park. Would allow us to close the entire camp to car and truck traffic which spoils the feeling of the camp. I've got a few of the other leaders listening, but I really don't know what I'm talking about (what else is new).

Unskilled labor is no problem, and skilled labor only takes a bit of looking. But it's the rail that worries them... What do we need, and what should we expect to pay for it. Next we need to come up with something to use as a base for our engin, something like your speeder. We can make the top sided of the cars, but once again we need to buy the bottoms... Well, I'm sure you know more of what I'm talking about than I do, and I'll take any advice I can get... should we even consider a passenger car, or keep it strictly freight cars? and a tanker would be great for fire safety in the camp!...

Thanks in advance,
John Bell
Subject: Your Web Site Date: Sat, 20 Mar 1999 23:54:26 -0500 From: Larry Inch To:

Hi Becky and Dave, My name is Larry Inch (really!!) Somehow I found your site while surfing today. It was really great to view. I thought that I was one of the only people on Earth (or at least in the U.S.) that had such an ecclectic batch of interests! I have only just got through the train part so there is a lot to go. A little about me: I am a high school teacher at an Alternative Education High School ( read: for the real Thug life devotees!) in Detroit, MI; but I live in a suburb named Wyandotte (named for an Indian tribe that once thought it should have riverfront property until Col Mad Anthony Wayne convinced them that the Dustbowl area in Oklahoma would be a lot nicer. My alma mater Wayne State University was named after this hero.) I have a wife and 2 daughters and they are wonderful. I enjoy riding motorcycles (although I have yet to ride a Harley.), driving cars, music (most kinds except rap), trains, history, geography, mathematics, and computers. I don't have a website yet, but one is under construction. I was really impressed with your site. Well, better close for now. I'm working on homework while surfing the web. Write back if you get a chance. I always enjoy e-mail :-)

Larry Out
Subject: I'm Impressed.. Thanks Date: Sun, 28 Feb 1999 23:21:44 -0800 From: Jeffrey Kaner Organization: Little Green Men Engineering To:

Jeffrey Kaner wrote:

I've been to a couple of your D&B sites and I am impressed. (Not something that is done easily, if you saw my resume you'd know why)

Jeff, thanks for the kind words

My kids and I have been avid train buffs and I would love to know more about your B&D Great Northern Railroad. In fact, do you allow visitors?

>>>>>sure, especially to avid train lovers ... it might just include a ride on our speeder till the train is thoroughly tested, etc. I am having a ball now that it is here at the house .... getting it detailed out between rain storms ... it is an original not a scale model of anything ... our own 15"gauge full size narrow gauge engine ... Where do you guys live?

My oldest (9) has his own garden railroad (he's been into it since he was 1 1/2 .. it's to long a story).

>>>>>will take you up to my friends place ... Mel Nethery's layout if it's okay with him ... I'm sure you also saw part of his Garden Railroad layout on our G scale page. Our G scale is just a bare track loop out back on the deck.

I do custom lettering and painting on N/G/HO and at one time I was a member of a museum here in CA that rebuilt F7, E8, steam engines and trolley cars (full scale). I learn some of my full scale painting skills there.

>>>>>>>>Our Rail & Steam Preservation Society has been donated a full size steam locomotive for our fledgling museum up here in Redding. We have to actually assemble much of it as they had started the restoration & gave up & gave it to us.

My youngest has his own N scale setup and we all decided that after we get a house (due to divorce I'm looking) we are going to rebuild the Alaska and Great Western Railroad.

Anyway .. I'd be interested in any further information.

Subject: International live steam festival : Swiss vapor park, Bouveret, Switzerland (lake of Genevra Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 20:58:35 +0100 From: "Jean-Paul Thierrin"

International live steam festival : Swiss vapor park, Bouveret, Switzerland (lake of Genevra)

The biggest European gathering of steam locomotive fanatics will take place during the week-end from 18th to 20th June 99. The public will be able to view more than 80 different locomotive and will watch the unveiling of the new construction 99.

All the small scale model owners (5 and 7 1/4 inches) are invited to participate at this meeting. Register fees : 20,- CHF Please visit the site : If you want to add a link with this site, please Email me and I make the same. More info about the steam festival or the Swiss vapor park :
Subject: Mel's Page Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 11:32:18 -0500 From: Erik Kabo To:

Hi Doc,
I met Mel in 1991 at the Railfest in Sacramento. I was with Richard and Nancy Wright (relatives of Mel). He is a fascinating character. Richard and Nancy have shown me many pictures of Mel, his shop, his sawmill and his engines. I remember him taking measurements of the shay and declaring that he will build it. It is good to see that he has done so. Richard and I plan to visit Sacramento this June for Railfest 99. We hope to see Mel, too!
Thanks for putting up this page. It brought back memories. And I am going to explore the rest of this website.

Paul Kabo, Jr. ....
Subject: Harris locomotive Works Date: Sun, 17 Jan 1999 22:04:20 EST From: To:


We just got off the phone with Mel and he told us to look up his webpage. Mel is my wife's mother's cousin. We live in Louisville, KY and are planning a trip to CA the end of June-beginning of July. Nancy's parents as well as my sister live in Placerville. We are coming out primarily to see this year's Railfair. Mel has invited us to come up to see him for a few days while we are there. I hope that we get a chance to meet you then. We were last in Redding two years ago. I have layouts in the basement in HO, O, ON3, and G gauges. The G scale hangs from the ceiling and I take it outside to run in the yard about once a year. I would like to start a garden railroad and would love to see the ones you feature in your sites. I have the Bachmann spectrum Shay with sound system. I would like to add sound to several other engines as well, especially the Climax. I also have an Astor live steam engine that I hope to radio-control some day. I am especially interested in logging railroads and engines. Tell Mel that we are impressed and looking forward to our trip to Redding this summer.
It was a pleasure to make Mel's site for him & to host it off our BAD Chariots Web Site
Becky & Dave Hemp
Subject: best of the best Date: Thu, 1 Jan 1998 00:58:10 -0500 From: "james b." To:

I really enjoyed your trains and music , it is the very best of the whole internet,thanks much.

I worked for theNorfolk & Western railroad which is now the Norfolk& Southern ( 40 ) years as a switchman. I was sad to see the steam engines go. the 611 was my favorite engine. again much thanks for what you have created . it is the very best.
Subject: YOUR WONDERFUL SITE Date: Sat, 16 Jan 1999 21:51:46 -0500 From: "TRACK N'TRAINS" To:

Subject: Thanks! Date: Sat, 2 Jan 1999 17:12:49 EST From: To:


As long time Mel Harris fans - and former next door neighbors - we were delighted to see the wonderful advertisement and recognition you have afforded this true genius.

It was always a pleasure to see Mel's latest project and it is impossible not to be touched by a man so passionate about his work. As all children, our daughters adored Mel and often ate his homemade cookies as he helped our oldest with her math homework. Their favorite memories, however are of swimming in his pool along with salamanders and of him so generously passing out fudgecicles after a visit! I have always admired his enthusiasm and wilingness to take time for others - especially children.

Ted saw your locomotive at Mel's recently. What a beauty! We also enjoyed the photos of your engine and your beautiful yard. Thanks for sharing them. Seeing Mel standing so proudly by his works of art reminded me of how fortunate we are to know such a wonderful and unique person - and we want to thank you for giving him the recognition he so well deserves!

The Berkey's - Ted, Nancy, Carley, and Hailey
Subject: just to say hello Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1998 15:42:10 EST From: To:

got interested in G scale about 2 years ago, spent alot of money, not much to show for other than rolling stock. want to get back involved, but in a more educated fashion. the little boy in me got me in trouble again!!!!! ($$$$$$$) didn't realize that their was so much involved in getting the layout figured,established, and fuctionable.still very interested in indoor layout. need good advice in how to succeed with low budget, $2-4000.00 per year.

it was very enjoyable viewing your web-site. it was really a pleasure!!! thanks,
warren a. jordan atl. ga.
happy tracks to you!!!
Subject: Greetings from an Antipodean fellow big-trainer Date: Thu, 03 Dec 1998 20:21:03 +1030 From: Kathy & Phil Creer To:

Hey guys!
Congratulations for the work you have done. You 4-4-0 is a delight and a credit to you.
Terrific inspiration to the rest of us big-trainers.
May I add a link to your site?
Best regards,
Phil Creer in Adelaide, South Australia
Toenail Ridge Shortline

Subject: LGB Date: Sun, 15 Nov 1998 16:39:01 -0700 From: Stan Kurzet To:

Your web site is fabulous! On a scale of 1 to 10 it's a 12. I am sending a link to your site to all my friends. Not only do you have a fantastic train layout as evident from the photos, but your web site shows a programming prowess on a par with your layout. Too bad LGB doesn't share your obvious penchant for thoroughness.

I've been surfing all over trying to find someone who has filled the appalling gaps in LGB's decoder installation instructions.

I am an electronics engineer with a complete electronics lab at my disposal. The instructions furnished by LGB are a disgrace. The sketches don't match the hardware, are confusing, fail to address much of the data needed, and in general appear to have been written by someone who didn't really know how to do the job. Their wiring diagrams are worst than useless.

If you know of a site where I can get some usable information, such as sensible loco disassembly instructions, accurate and meaningful installation instructions and most of all real honest to goodness schematic diagrams of the locos and decoders, I would be most grateful for such info.
Subject: GREAT SITE. Date: Wed, 04 Nov 1998 21:10:32 -0800 From: Terry Marvel To:

My name is Terry Marvel. I live in Spokane Wa. I just wanted to tell you that I enjoyed your website. I like trains & really liked your pictures of your steam railroad. I will check back to see pictures of it running. Maybe you could show pictures from the engine as it is moving. That would be cool. I'm glad to see you are enjoying life.
Terry Marvel
Good idea Terry! But, the steam engine is always 2 more months away = having trouble gettitng all the bugs worked out! So we are also having a 12' long ride inside diesl built too - it runs great now but has no sheet metal & the guy working on it took 2 months off ..... the steam engine looking great ... but doesn't run yet ... they will prolly both be finished about the same time .... by next summer? We want them as perfect as possible though before we have them delivered out to our place, too hard to move them back & forth. We have currently been using a 3 hp speeder with 2 cars to haul gravel for track work & give rides on though .... it is even a blast to ride on! Thanks for the email,
Doc Hemp
Subject: Date: Sun, 18 Oct 1998 07:45:50 -0400 From: "David Surace" To:

Dave & Becky,
I enjoyed your site so much. I love trains but do not have the resourses or the time to make a railroad like yours. The progressive pic.s were great. I like that because I am a machinist and I like seeing how thing are made. Have you always had a passion for trains? I am into O-gauge myself. I live in Northern NJ where Conrail is everywhere for now. I am taking many pictures of them while they are still here.
Keep up the good work. I am sending your page to a friend of mine in Virginia who also has a live steam set up. So far he has a large oval maybe 100 yards by 60 yards. Also a gas powered diesel that my girls and I rode on for a couple of hours and LOVED it! What a blast! I am sure he will write you guys. He bought a Live steam engine but had problems with the ash pan being too low the valve for the exaust steam and smoke was not creating enough draw through the fire box, fire wasn't hot. Also the guy who built it used cheap valves and tubing. Jim is redoing it all. If you have time, write back, if not good luck in the future with your RR.

Dave Surace
Subject: Re: Date: Wed, 21 Oct 1998 08:52:35 -0500 From: "juhlemey" To: "Doc Hemp"

These are 12" gauge and 16" gauge. The G16 was the more common.They were originally built by the Miniature Train Co. as a scaled down model of the popular passenger diesel engine, the EMD F7. They were used a lot at amusement parks and especially at drive-in theaters in the 60's. Any help to find one and it's cars would be appreciated. Thank you,

Yeah, contact Greg Robinson from Grand Scales Quarterly - he just did a whole magazine on those - you need to join & buy the back issue - he can direct you to one somewhere i'm sure. You can get to him from our site
Subject: Date: Tue, 20 Oct 1998 15:23:28 -0500 From: "juhlemey" To:

I was told that even though your interests are in steam, you might know who and/or where to refer me to regarding the old diesel style trains that were popular at drive-in theaters back in the late 50's to early 60's. In particular, I am looking for a G16 MTC/Herschel and passenger cars, running or not, restored or not, preferably in need of restoration. I would prefer the g16, however, I would consider the g12. Track would be nice but not a priority. I would appreciate any information possible. Thank you for your time and consideration.
Jeff Uhlemeyer
Dear Large Scale Enthusiast,
Hi there! Hope you all had a great summer. I've been plugging away in order to get the first annual Atlantic City Large Scale Train Show in tip-top shape for everyone's arrival on September 12th and 13th. And I'm pleased to say that it looks as though we're going to have a terrific show. I've been ordering all sorts of audio-visual equipment for our seminar line up which includes: Jonathan Polk's "Going On-Line for Large Scale," Elaine Silets' "Making Foam Mountains," Don Herzog's "Miniature Plantings for Garden Railways," John Rimpau's "Scratch Building Giant Locos," Paul Busse's "Large Display Layouts," John Wenger's "Asbury Falls Fabulous Indoor Layout: How We Did It" (w/video), Walt Swartz' "Live Steam" (demonstration), Ray Buteaux's "Quick and Easy Weathering" (without an airbrush), Mac McCalla's "Weathering With An Airbrush," Don Morris' "Laying Stainless Steel Track," David Newall's "The Aristo-Craft Radio Controlled Train Engineer System," Linda Spencer's "Building Structures with JigStones," Bill Frank's "Building Modular Layouts," Dale Suiters' "Beginning Garden Railways with Ponds," and Ray Buteaux's "Conrail in the 90's (the 1890s!)."
And I've been ordering tables and chairs for Hartland Locomotive Works who will be sponsoring a children's Make-It-N-Take-It area which will be located next to a children's operating starter set play area. On September 11th, five area garden railroad clubs will be at the Convention Center putting together their operating layouts for all to see come Saturday. Wow!
And as if that wasn't enough, we've put together a limited edition commemorative Atlantic City First Large Scale Train Show box car, which will be available at the show for only $25! I hope you will join us to share in this very exciting event.
The show will be taking place at the brand new Atlantic City Convention Center, located at 2001 Kirkman Blvd., Atlantic City, NJ 08401. Tickets at the door will cost $8 for one day, $12 for both days, and $3 for kids under 12 (children under 3 will be free). Admission entitles you to enter our door prize raffle for FREE! We'll be giving away close to 100 door prizes ranging in value from $5 to $440! Don't miss out! For further information, call me at (718) 788-0516.
To see a list of the exhibitors who will be in attendance, check out our web site at
Jennifer Polk (show producer)
Subject: Re: Train & layout Date: Wed, 02 Sep 1998 09:44:28 -0700 From: Greg / Susan Robinson To: "C. David Hemp DDS" References: 1
Sorry about the delay in getting back to you. Been busier than a one armed wallpaper hanger.

> Check out the new arrangement of the different sites, ours, yours, & > our track & layout set up as it's happening - I have now shoveled over > 11 tons of road base in the past 3 weeks.

Looks good. Glad to see you're making so much progress. Those a great pics on your site. GSQ #6 and most of #7 are filled up, but I REALLY want to get up there soon and get some pictures taken, etc. so we can do a feature article on what you're doing.

> We have all but 20 more feet of curved = ran out = Mell has to > make it this week or I would have had it all bolted up in total for the > initial phase.

Yeah, I ran in to Mel last weekend at a SCRPS meeting. He said you were just about done. I can't wait to get up there and see it.

All the Best,

> regards, > Dave >

> P.S. your mag is as great as ever! Glad it's working out for you.
Subject: Date: Wed, 02 Sep 1998 16:03:56 -0700 From: "Howard E. Leach" Organization: Silk Tattoo To:
Hi Becky and David,
just found you earlier this morning. Great site with lots of info and links, I been lost here all morning and I love it. Not getting much work done, but there's always tommorrow. Just a few questions if you don't mind. We live in Chico just down the road a piece, We are currently home schooling our 12 year old daughter and need some interesting and new things to do, I have heard about a scale railroad in Red Bluff and was looking for info on that when you popped up, now my daughter would like to know if you are going to be having tours where we could see the train in person and she could ask some questions of you?
We looked at all the pictures and read all the text and eagerly await new additions.
Thanks for a wonderful morning.
Howard E. Leach, Faithe M. Leach, Laura A. Leach
Subject: Re: SCRPS Date: Fri, 7 Aug 1998 09:43:42 -0700 From: "Matt Shuman" To: "C. David Hemp DDS Inc."
Looks good my friend. Thanks - Matt

P.S. sending hard copies to Hart.
Subject: YESTERDAY Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1998 13:55:10 -0700 From: "Matt Shuman" To:
Look forward to more adventures with you.
Matthew & Diana Shuman
Anderson Ca
(530) 365-0287
Subject: Re: accessories Date: Sun, 26 Jul 1998 23:36:50 -0700 From: Chris Allan To: "C. David Hemp DDS Inc." References: 1
As for the headlight, we tend to fabricate ours from aluminum pipe and tubing, no way around it-kind of "jewelry" type work. Reflectors are generally taken from hand spotlights, etc.
Thanks for the compliment on our web page! Hopefully soon we'll update it, spare time is growing short with our two little girls becoming more animated all the time. Good luck on your project, please keep me posted.
Best regards, Chris Allan
Subject: Re: accessories Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1998 23:11:26 -0700 From: Chris Allan To: "C. David Hemp DDS Inc." References: 1 , 2 , 3
Keep trying Keith, another way to reach him is is fax, that no. is: 011 6189 354 2555. He was in Italy a couple of weeks ago helping to set up a couple of his locomotives, so don't be suprised if he is also elusive. One of the nicer bells I've seen was part of the casting package for the 4" scale "Lucky Seven", the Maine 2- foot gauge Forney prototype. I believe someone still sells those castings, I'll try and do a bit more research. Keep the faith, Chris
Subject: Update 8/98 Date: Sun, 2 Aug 1998 01:25:38 +0100 From: Trainpage Webmaster To: Doc Hemp
Hello Doc, has made many improvements in the last many months. now boasts over 20,000 rail image files.
In addition, a live web based chat area has been added.
Two mail lists have been added. The first is the "Trainpage-Update" list. Subscribers of this list are notified when new files are added to the site. The second is the "Trainpage-RailTalk" list. This list is a standard mail list where anyone subscribed can share ideas and ask questions. I hope this will be a good way for visitors to find info on files that I do not know about and for infomation and ideas with this site and all rail sites on the net. This list is moderated. All posts will be screened by me so the family friendly nature of this site will not be compromised. This list needs subscribers. Please consider adding yourself to it, the more the better. A web based entry form for both lists is at the site, and is linked to the home page.
The last addition is actually a return of the original file serving scheme. The "New Pictures" area now has a thumbnail list as well as the original ftp access. All other directories are still ftp only. The thumbnail are available only during non-peak weekday hours and all weekend. Thumbnails are still being tested and may change in the future.
All of this is linked to the home page.
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All The Best,
Rick Gardner
Subject: Long time no see! Date: Wed, 15 Jul 1998 05:38:56 +0100 From: "Chet Moore" To:
What's this you are doing now? A train engine? You even get great compliments at the downtown coffee Klatch - every morning at 10 A.M. How does anyone ever catch up with your going's-on?

By now I have received almost all of my bands pictures, bio's, home pages, and CD's - just in case you want to include any of that stuff on yours. Oh, Andy Main who owns Interstar - has offered a big sponsorship by providing a new home page for the Festival! So he is in the process of having the old one changed - is doing it in two phases in order to get a new one up as soon as possible.

Oh, by the way, I have hired two more bands - Kinda Dixie and the Air Force Jazz group - they come for free! What a deal.

Go back to work - ha. - Chet
Subject: TRAINS Date: Sun, 28 Jun 1998 13:12:35 -0500 (CDT) From: (crickett elmore) To:
I'm a 90's day HoBo,I ride Freight Trains,love your Train Page.I am doing a home page on Train Riders on my home page on geocities.They call me Crazy Crickett,I was thrown off a train at 60mph in Rife,Co; in April,1994.I'm now in the Art's & Crafts Business,but still kept in touch with the Train Riders.The HighLine Documentary,I'm in this by David Eberhardt.My home page:,I would like to put your page as one of my links if I could. "May The Spirit Be With You" I RIDE THE DIRTY FACE

Subject: Just saying hi. Date: Thu, 11 Jun 1998 09:43:48 -0700 From: Greg / Susan Robinson To:
Hello Sir,
Just wanted to say hello and ask how things were going. I've been meaning to make it up your way and get a look at your "railroad in progress". How's Mel coming along on the engine?
All the Best,
Subject: Re: Grand scale trains Date: Sun, 31 May 1998 23:21:18 -0600 From: Robert Courtenay To: "C. David Hemp DDS Inc."

Glad to talk to someone who knows where Boise, Idaho (and Mt Home) are located. You would not recognize this place since the last time you were here there has been tremendous growth in the area. Where are you located at? Looking at your home page I did not really find an area where you are at. Just wondering because next weekend I plan on being in the California area and did not know if you were somewhere in California or not. Hope the progress on your locomotive is going well. Sounds like you have a lot of work (or enjoyment) ahead of you getting your railroad set up.
Robert Courtenay

Subject: Grand scale trains Date: Mon, 25 May 1998 12:25:41 -0600 From: Robert Courtenay To:

Robert Courtenay wrote:

Very interesting locomotive. I am working on some 15" gauge 5" scale equiptment myself. I am building a couple of small four wheel 'jimmy' cars to pull behind my loco when I get it built. What type of cars do you plan on pulling behind your locomotive? Will Mel be selling any other train equipment besides the locomotive he is building?
thx, Robert Courtenay Boise, Idaho

Robert, We were stationed in Mt. Home AFB in 1968 - 70. Was in Bose a lot! Skied at Bogus Basin.
We will have one passenger convertible gondola car with a steel platform with drop in slots for the sides & seats, we will also have a water tank to drop into it too keep the track area watered & green in the non irrigated areas for fire saftey. A caboose with the top that lifts off for the kids to get into, with drop in seats so I can haul chipped rock in it for laying track. All cars are 8 wheel with 2 - 4 wheel trucks each. each truck has 4 springs the car rides on.

Yes, Mel says he can build whatever others want ... wheels, trucks, etc. Just call him at 530 - 257- 1748

If you are ever in our area on a Fri - Sunday & we are here I would be happy to take anyone by & show them progress of the train, etc. It will be completely dissassembled shortly to insulate the boiler, clean & paint parts, cut the flange of the drivers down a little = they hit the bolts (sounds good though)
Doc Hemp
Subject: Re: Great Site! Date: Fri, 27 Mar 1998 17:14:29 -0800 (PST) From: "" To: "C. David Hemp DDS Inc."

--Thanks for the kind words. That's quite a site you've got, too. I'll add a link to it from my page asap. TTFN,

"Steamboat Ed" Haas : WTB property: 30-80 miles
See 5MB of crummy photos at: : North of San Francisco :
---Decks a-wash in a sea of words--
Subject: Re: Fantistic site! Date: Tue, 17 Mar 1998 11:21:07 -7 From: "VRBass" Organization: Small-Scale Live Steam Resources To: "C. David Hemp DDS Inc."

I am trying to reach your site, but the server is not responding. I hope to get there eventually. I have a particular fondness for 15" gauge -- it's small enough to be (more or less) practical, but big enough to be BIG! regards, -vance-
Vance Bass
Albuquerque, New Mexico, USA
Small-scale live steam resources:

Subject: your train layout Date: Mon, 16 Mar 1998 23:14:40 -0600 From: "Michael D. Thomas" To:

Dave, Becky
WOW !!!! That pictorial was great ! Thanks for shareing!
Wait a sec, I noticed that your an Internet America subscriber too ! Does that mean that you have a shop close to me ? I live in Carrollton, Tx. If so please e-mail me, I would love to see your shop. I'm just getting into the hobby, and I've got a lot to learn !
Thanks Michael D. Thomas
Subject: Re: link down Date: Mon, 16 Mar 1998 11:03:37 +0000 From: David Edmondson To: "C. David Hemp DDS Inc." References: 1

C. David Hemp DDS Inc. wrote:
> your link to Ron Stewart is outdated > > Can get it here = you are linked right above him too - hope you can add > our newest site off our BAD Chariots as I already sent you
> Doc Hemp

Thanks for the update.

I've put a link in to your trains page. Could you make the entry on your links page point to the museum front page, rather than the links page, more way of catching people on their way through.
Cheers, Dave
-- David Edmondson Voice : +44 1483 448865 --- Fax: +44 1483 448845 Canon Research Centre Europe Ltd, 1 Occam Court, Occam Road, Surrey Research Park, Guildford, Surrey. GU2 5YF U.K.
Subject: Re: link down Date: Mon, 16 Mar 1998 07:22:42 -0800 From: "C. David Hemp DDS Inc." Organization: http// To: David Edmondson References: 1 , 2

It is done! I had planned on changing that ..... but I get side tracked easliy (bad pun intended). You'll hafta check out the rest of BAD Chariots! Don't let my warped sense of humor throw you ..... I am really quite sane ....... well ..... almost - hee-hee!
This steam thing is brand new to us but a totally new hobby & we are VERY EXCITED about it.
The next time we are in London maybe I can buy you a cup of tea, crumpets or some mash & bangers! We have already stolen your fish & chips! We will go through the museum though for sure!!!

Cheers 2 U 2!
Doc Hemp
Subject: Re: link down Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 19:09:15 +0000 From: David Edmondson To: "C. David Hemp DDS Inc." References: 1 , 2 , 3

It's a date. The caterer at the museum has changed so I'm not sure whether the fry-ups will be up to the old standards, there was some worring talk about the food being healthy and balanced.
Sorry about the delay, I've has a few days of for bike tinkering and riding.
Dave -- Voice : +44 1483 448865
Fax: +44 1483 448845 Canon Research Centre Europe Ltd, 1 Occam Court, Occam Road,
Surrey Research Park, Guildford, Surrey. GU2 5YF U.K.
Subject: Re: Subscription Date: Sun, 08 Mar 1998 20:37:07 -0800 From: Greg / Susan Robinson To: "C. David Hemp DDS Inc."
Hi Dave,
This is Susan. Greg has been out all weekend and hasn't looked at the e-mail. I looked at your site though and it looks GREAT!!!!! Wow! What a nice job you did. Thank you very much for your help and advertising - we appreciate it a great deal. I told Grge about it - he's happy. He will take a look later tonight ot first thing Monday.
Just wanted you to know that we appreciate your efforts, Susan Robinson The Grand Scales Quarterly
Subject: Re: Subscription Date: Mon, 09 Mar 1998 17:45:48 -0800 From: Greg / Susan Robinson To: "C. David Hemp DDS Inc."
Thanks for writing. Sorry I haven't gotten back to you before... been busier than a one armed wallpaper hanger.
> Don't know if you had a chance to look at your free advertising off the > new train site or not - if you'd rather me not do it just let me know.

Great Stuff!!!! We need all the promotion we can get. If you want more material, just let me know. I can e-mail you some of the pics I used in the mag.

> I need to have you come out to the house & see what we have in mind for > the track.
Looking forward to it. Just let us know when you'd like to have us come.
Didn't know that Mel was the one doing your engine. He sure is quite a character. He's cut some of the ties for Godfrey Humann's 2 foot gauge RR here in Gerber. (I put some of them in myself... back breaking work). BTW... Godfrey will be putting on his shows again this spring, every Sunday afternoon in April and May. I will be helping with the 2 foot gauge steamer about half of the weekends. Maybe we can coordinate our timing... you can join me in the cab.
Keep Your Hand on the Throttle and Your Eye on the Rail,
Greg Robinson
Subject: Re: Subscription Date: Sun, 15 Mar 1998 09:14:40 -0800 From: Greg / Susan Robinson To: "C. David Hemp DDS Inc." References: 1 , 2 , 3 , 4 , 5 , 6 , 7 , 8 , 9
Again, I'd call, but its still pretty early this morn and if you just got in from Phantom you may be sleeping in (I would be).

> We just got in from the Phantom of the Opera in S.F. = it's a > classic, worth seeing once for sure.

I've seen it two or three times. FANTASTIC! I don't get to the theatre nearly as much as I'd like to. When I was going to school in S.F. I usually took in at least one play a month.

> The engine is really taking shape! the cab proportions > are fantastic!

I should give Mel a call in the next week or two and go up and take some pics (if I can find the TIME!).

> Can you give me a few phone # or places I can call information to buy > new track?

Well, the last time I did homework on new rail was years ago (maybe 8?), but surprisingly I walked right into the spare bedroom we use as a library and found the catalogs I'd gotten.

L.B. Foster I think they also have a year in Stockton they can 1837 Whipple Road ship out of. Hayward, CA 94544 (510) 489-7000
Harmer Steel Products 9933 N.W. 107th Ave Portland, OR 97231 (503)286-3691
Atlantic Track and Turnout Co. One Woodfield Lake Schaumburg, IL 60173 800-323-6256 312-517-1111
As I recall L.B. Foster was the cheapest. The one in Illinois is really too far away, even if their prices were better, the shipping would ruin the deal. Wait... I found the letter that L.B. Foster sent to me. Dated March 7, 1990. And the prices are for 12# rail.
40 pcs. @ 30' =4,800#
F.O.B. our Stockton Yard $53.00 cwt
F.O.B. Red Bluff $56.00 cwt
If my calculations are right that comes out to: .44 / lb. F.O.B. Stockton .47 / lb. F.O.B. RB
Considering how old these prices are, Gerlingers may be in the ball park.
> I am going to use new track regardless though. > Will be doing a lot of the welding myself & don't relish loading & > unbolting rusty bolts in any used stuff.
Some of the ON&P in Orland was used rail. I didn't work with it, but Frank said that it was a pain to deal with. And you can tell when you come to those sections of track. These rails came from a brick kiln (or was it a quarry?) in the Bay Area and had been stored for YEARS in an unused tunnel. The rail heads are so pitted that it feels like you're driving over a gravel road. For many hobbyists, new rail isn't an option, but it is definietly a better way to go.
Got your address. Will send issue #3 off in the next day or so.
Best Regards, Greg